We should not say that the Pope "approves" the indult, because he is the one that wrote it.
My sources say the document will be published on July 7th. Until then, the PBXVI is giving the liberal bishops a moment to soke in their orders.
No one really knows what the document will allow and not allow. We'll find out next weekend. Many conservatives believe that the Pope is using this idult to help rid the Post Vatican II Masses of it's current liturgical abuses through influence. Notice how Benedict has used more Latin in Mass than any other Pope after Vatican II.
In the coming years, look for an exodus of "Progressive Catholics" to leave the church. A smaller, but better Church may be in our near future.
A schism may even be in the works. The next Pope is expected to be even more conservative than PBXVI, whom which I can not wait.
I will admit that I had no idea what the hell was going on when I went to that last Latin mass at Nativity. It did feel a little ridiculous at times.
However, if this is what it takes to put an end to the absurdity that has become the Catholic Mass in places like Atlanta and Athens then I'm all for it. People would learn the translations and it would restore people's respect for what was going on. No more tie-dyed shirts and Fleetwood Mac cover bands singing praise Jesus and that crap.
Going to mass in many parts of the country today has become no different than watching PBS re-runs of Barney and Friends. Something has to be done.
Those who leave the Church can join the fruity Progressive Episcopalians, who have their own schism going at the moment.
However, I have heard rumblings that conservative Episcopalian parishes may reach out to Rome. One parish in Atlanta has already done this, and Pope John Paul, before his death, even set up a path for conservative Anglican parishes to do so. Their identity would remain Anglican, and they would continue to perform the Anglican Mass rite, but there will be small changes like the belief in total transubstansiation (say that 3 times fast) of the Eucharist and acceptance of the heirarchy of the Roman Church.
Anyhoo, I'll be eager to see what the Pope has for us.
Also, another hurdle for these newcomer Episcopalians will be our beliefs in the Blessed Mother.
Ty, I've been reading about the what people think the Pope's plan is for the eventual re-unification of the Universal Church (which has to happen before Christ's return.)
And you're correct about the Anglican Rite. In addition, the other rites will be for the Orthodox Church (probably the first church to reunify with us, our closest cousins), Other Easter churches (Coptics, Armenians, etc.) and serveral rites for the protestant churches.
We may be well dead before the reunification takes place, but I'd like to see how all this can possibly happen.
In the meantime...
"Holy Father Benedict, a man of God. Blessed is he in name, and in deed." ~Fr. Albert
The Pope has approved wider use of the Latin mass. He has also elected to start wearing sweet hats. 
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We should not say that the Pope "approves" the indult, because he is the one that wrote it.
My sources say the document will be published on July 7th. Until then, the PBXVI is giving the liberal bishops a moment to soke in their orders.
No one really knows what the document will allow and not allow. We'll find out next weekend. Many conservatives believe that the Pope is using this idult to help rid the Post Vatican II Masses of it's current liturgical abuses through influence. Notice how Benedict has used more Latin in Mass than any other Pope after Vatican II.
In the coming years, look for an exodus of "Progressive Catholics" to leave the church. A smaller, but better Church may be in our near future.
A schism may even be in the works. The next Pope is expected to be even more conservative than PBXVI, whom which I can not wait.
what you don't like rock band music services, holding hands during the Our Father, standing up during the entire Holy Communion portion of the Mass...
btw the way, you don't see much of the non-kneeling around here, but it is quite prevalent in the metro Atlanta area's. Another reason Atlanta sucks.
What? no kneeling?
What church have you been to?
We kneel for a reason, not just because it's popular, new age, or hip.
I will admit that I had no idea what the hell was going on when I went to that last Latin mass at Nativity. It did feel a little ridiculous at times.
However, if this is what it takes to put an end to the absurdity that has become the Catholic Mass in places like Atlanta and Athens then I'm all for it. People would learn the translations and it would restore people's respect for what was going on. No more tie-dyed shirts and Fleetwood Mac cover bands singing praise Jesus and that crap.
Going to mass in many parts of the country today has become no different than watching PBS re-runs of Barney and Friends. Something has to be done.
Those who leave the Church can join the fruity Progressive Episcopalians, who have their own schism going at the moment.
However, I have heard rumblings that conservative Episcopalian parishes may reach out to Rome. One parish in Atlanta has already done this, and Pope John Paul, before his death, even set up a path for conservative Anglican parishes to do so. Their identity would remain Anglican, and they would continue to perform the Anglican Mass rite, but there will be small changes like the belief in total transubstansiation (say that 3 times fast) of the Eucharist and acceptance of the heirarchy of the Roman Church.
Anyhoo, I'll be eager to see what the Pope has for us.
Also, another hurdle for these newcomer Episcopalians will be our beliefs in the Blessed Mother.
Ty, I've been reading about the what people think the Pope's plan is for the eventual re-unification of the Universal Church (which has to happen before Christ's return.)
And you're correct about the Anglican Rite. In addition, the other rites will be for the Orthodox Church (probably the first church to reunify with us, our closest cousins), Other Easter churches (Coptics, Armenians, etc.) and serveral rites for the protestant churches.
We may be well dead before the reunification takes place, but I'd like to see how all this can possibly happen.
In the meantime...
"Holy Father Benedict, a man of God. Blessed is he in name, and in deed." ~Fr. Albert
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