Tuesday, January 16, 2007

The Golden Boy Cometh...


The Democratic Golden Child, Barack Obama, has thrown his hat in the ring for the 2008 Presidential Election. They were all asking for the chosen one, now they have it. It will be interesting to see if he can overcome the man-power(pun?) of Hillary Clinton to get the nomination, if she runs. And he speaks so well....

17 comments:

Patrick said...

He has the same voting record as Ted Kennedy. What makes him the Golden Boy?

Oh wait, I forgot, the media doesn't base its charactarizations on tedious things like facts and voting records (particularly if they're liberal). Nevermind. Go Barack!

Pinkie said...

Ya'll know I don't follow politics closely, but the Democrats are screwed if Hilary and this guy are their only opptions. A woman cannot win a presidential election in America yet. Nor can somone named Barack.

HANK said...

I think Hillary might win.

You have to understand that we, those who know right from wrong, are just a tiny speck in American demographics. There are a lot of idiots out there who would give their right arm for Billary. The Northeast is full of those jokers. Just you watch.

HANK said...

Also, Barack isn't your typical "African American."

His mother is white, and his father is actually from the continent known as Africa.

Ryan said...

Will, you would think so just from the surface information, but if you watch this guy speak, you'll see how charismatic he is. He is the complete opposite of W, and I think he will easily beat Hillary to be the Democratic candidate. I also predict that he will bring out the minority and youth vote larger than it has ever been in history.

One thing I brought up to a few of you is this: I dread this time next year and on through the election, because you KNOW what the big debate is going to be. "Oh, you're voting Republican? Gee, what a surprise. Admit it - you just don't want to vote for a black person to be president!" A perfectly suited fake argument from that side of the camp.

Patrick said...

His entire candicacy has been manufactured by the media. He has no real stated position on anything. He just smiles a lot and talks about loving America. He could take any stance on anything he wanted over the next two years.

Contrast this with Ronald Wilson Reagan, who, for 30 years had been writing books, hosting radio shows, and making controversial speeches which articulated core conservative beliefs and ideals. No one, especially himself, ever doubted for a minute where he stood on any issue. He essentially led his own campaign. There were no "image consultants" or pollsters, and even if there were he rarely listened to them. He always went with his gut and the people loved him for it.

We need another great conservative thinker to lead this country. Not some double-talking Tiger Woods candidate manufactured by MTV.

Pinkie said...

If it comes down to one of these two getting the nod, I think a lot of Democrats won't go to the polls.

Who are the front-runners for the Republican nomination?

Ryan said...

McCain and Giuliani, both of which I would vote for in a second. But that's because they don't cater to the religious side of conservatism. So I guess that makes me a bad person.

Patrick said...

Ryan, what side of conservatism do they cater to?

I'll give you a hint: none.

Nothing is conservative about either McCain or Guiliani.

Patrick said...

Ok, here's my list:

John McCain: Too old, and too liberal. Voted against Bush's tax cuts. A patriot no doubt, and good on foreign policy, but not a conservative. Has never read an economics book. Is in no way committed to reducing the size and scope of government interference in our lives.

Unfortunately, he's the front runner, at least for now.

Rudy Guiliani: Respectable leader, but also pro-choice and pro-gun control. Not a tax cutter. This should kill him in the primaries.

Mitt Romney: Gov. of Massachusetts. Has a pretty good record, considering Mass. is one of the most liberal states. Probably our best all-around shot at getting a conservative in office as of right now.

Sam Brownback: Kansas senator. A fiscal conservative, but also one of those guys who likes to talk about the family and morality stuff too much. Not really into that type of stuff, and neither are most Americans. May do well in some primaries, but not nearly well enough.

Newt Gingrich: The ideal candidate, for me, but has no chance. A conservative intellectual and a master campaigner. Take Reagan's ideology and mix it with Clinton's campaign tactics and you have Newt. The problem is, he's too intellectual. He's not good at smiling and holding babies at train stops. He's had lots of wives/mistresses. Most Americans remember him as the man who tried overthrow Bill Clinton, and will think he's too extreme to be in the White House.

HANK said...

Newt Gingrich, I think, is the best Conservative candidate in terms of the Economy, Foreign Affairs (e.g. fighting Muslims), and domestic policies. He tells it like it is.

But I don't think he can win the election. He truly is more conservative than most, and doesn't care what most think. Not caring what most think will kill Newt's chances.

He also has some bones in his closet... i.e. cheating on his wife several times

I would love to see Sam Brownback become President (he has no chance in hell, though), the devout Catholic convert from Kansas. He'd do everything in his power to rid the country of abortions and gay marriage (This one is for you Ryan.)

Ryan said...

Excuse me, Pat, I actually meant to say Republicans, not conservatives. It goes with my same philosophy on abortion (for you Stephen): We will be given a set of cirumstances, such as McCain as the Republican candidate and abortion in America. Will you like either? No. Can you stop either from happening? No, so you just have to go with the best possible option with what you're given. Or not vote.

HANK said...

Remember Ryan, we should all support candidates that we want to win, and not simply candidates who can win.

What's the point of voting otherwise?

Joe said...

The youth will vote for whoever MTV tells them to. I've already seen Obama on the MTV News briefs. Yes, I was watching MTV, but that's not the point. Outside of Savannah, MTV provides every 18 to 24 year-old with everything they need to give the illusion of having a personality or beliefs. As said many times before, if the idea feels good, it must be the right thing to do.

Ryan said...

Stephen, I agree. I just meant in the scenario that McCain ends up as the Republican candidate, where you have only to choose between voting for him, the Democrat, another party's candidate, or no one.

tim said...

Is anyone watching American Idol tonight?

Ryan said...

From the preview, it looks to be by far the biggest bunch of weirdos ever shown on TV. Does Seattle have a high rate of birth defects? Because these people look more Tiger Ridge than anyone I've ever seen in Georgia.